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then Steve exports\/analyzes\",\"recording_playback_url\":\"https:\/\/fathom.video\/calls\/559876022?timestamp=3794.9999\",\"recording_timestamp\":\"01:03:14\",\"user_generated\":false},{\"assignee\":{\"email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\",\"name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"team\":null},\"completed\":false,\"description\":\"Add SBO Inactive flag + ignore processing for inactive SBOs\",\"recording_playback_url\":\"https:\/\/fathom.video\/calls\/559876022?timestamp=3816.9999\",\"recording_timestamp\":\"01:03:36\",\"user_generated\":false}],\"calendar_invitees\":[{\"email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\",\"email_domain\":\"gmail.com\",\"is_external\":false,\"matched_speaker_display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"name\":\"Sean Kruger\"}],\"calendar_invitees_domains_type\":\"one_or_more_external\",\"created_at\":\"2026-02-06T18:06:33Z\",\"crm_matches\":null,\"default_summary\":{\"markdown_formatted\":\"## Meeting Purpose\\n\\n[Discuss FileMaker server migration and long-term maintenance options.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=4.0)\\n\\n## Key Takeaways\\n\\n  - [**Server Migration Blocked:** A migration to a local M4 Mac Mini is blocked by a licensing mismatch; the client's FileMaker Pro license cannot host the solution, which requires a FileMaker Server license for its API integrations (QuickBooks) and multi-user access.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=4.0)\\n  - [**Two Paths Forward:**](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=428.0)\\n      - [**Option 1 (FileMaker Server):** Purchase a perpetual license (\\\\~$2,950) or pay for cloud hosting (\\\\~$1,050\/mo).](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=428.0)\\n      - [**Option 2 (Web Rewrite):** Rewrite the solution as a web app (React\/Node) for a fixed price of up to $5,000, eliminating FileMaker licensing costs.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=627.0)\\n  - [**Decision Deferred:** The client will use a new usage report to assess the solution's value before committing to a path, as its profitability is declining.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1789.0)\\n  - [**Immediate Fixes:** Sean will add a usage report and a \\\"deactivate\\\" button for service bureaus (SBOs) to stop processing files from non-paying clients like Megapay.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3805.0)\\n\\n## Topics\\n\\n### Problem: Unreliable Hosting Environment\\n\\n  - [The solution runs on Sean's development server, causing instability and downtime.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=705.0)\\n  - [**Root Causes:**](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=705.0)\\n      - [The server is \\\"hammered\\\" by other client files and frequent testing.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=705.0)\\n      - [The FileMaker Data API crashes regularly, despite multiple reinstalls.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=760.0)\\n      - [Script processes (e.g., email checks) sometimes hang, consuming resources.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=858.0)\\n  - [**Impact:**](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1374.0)\\n      - [Unreliable service \u2192 client frustration.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1374.0)\\n      - [A specific QuickBooks error for client A1 Vehicle Group (via SBO Serendipity) causes repeated disconnections.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1385.0)\\n\\n### Solution Paths & Costs\\n\\n  - [**Path 1: FileMaker Server**](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=428.0)\\n      - [**Requirement:** A FileMaker Server license is mandatory.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=71.0)\\n      - [**Rationale:** It enables API integrations (QuickBooks) and multi-user access via webhooks. A FileMaker Pro license cannot host the solution.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=114.0)\\n      - [**Hosting Options:**](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=428.0)\\n          - [**Self-Hosted (M4 Mac Mini):** Requires a perpetual license (\\\\~$2,950).](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=428.0)\\n          - [**Cloud-Hosted:** \\\\~$1,050\/month (Sean's service).](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=428.0)\\n  - [**Path 2: Web App Rewrite**](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=627.0)\\n      - [**Proposal:** Rewrite the solution in React\/Node.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=522.0)\\n      - [**Cost:** Fixed price of up to $5,000.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1080.0)\\n      - [**Rationale:** Eliminates FileMaker licensing costs. The existing FileMaker solution provides a clear blueprint, making the rewrite efficient.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=983.0)\\n      - [**Hosting:** A separate Linux server (\\\\~$30-50\/mo) would be needed.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=627.0)\\n\\n### Decision Driver: Assessing Value\\n\\n  - [The client's profitability from the solution is declining as major SBOs (e.g., Megapay) migrate away from the underlying Assure payroll platform.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1141.0)\\n  - [**Action:** Sean will add a usage report to help the client assess the solution's current value.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1789.0)\\n      - [**Report Details:** Summarizes unique companies processed per SBO within a date range.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1899.0)\\n      - [**Format:** An in-app button will generate an Excel export.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3805.0)\\n\\n### Immediate Fixes\\n\\n  - [**Megapay Files:** The solution is still processing files from Megapay, a former client. This consumes server resources for non-revenue work.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=2046.0)\\n      - [**Action:** Sean will add a \\\"deactivate\\\" button for SBOs.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3827.0)\\n      - [**Functionality:** Inactivating an SBO will cause the system to ignore all future files from that bureau.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3827.0)\\n\\n## Next Steps\\n\\n  - [**Sean:**](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3805.0)\\n      - [Add an \\\"Export Usage Report\\\" button to the app.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3805.0)\\n      - [Add a \\\"Deactivate SBO\\\" button to prevent processing files from non-paying clients.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3827.0)\\n      - [Investigate the A1 Vehicle Group QuickBooks error once the client re-authenticates.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1521.0)\\n  - [**Client:**](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3871.0)\\n      - [Use the usage report to assess the solution's value and profitability.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3871.0)\\n      - [Decide between the FileMaker Server and Web App Rewrite paths based on the assessment.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3871.0)\\n\",\"template_name\":\"General\"},\"meeting_title\":\"\ud83d\udc4b Hello, Lets talk about your FileMaker solution! (Steve Shouler)\",\"recorded_by\":{\"email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\",\"email_domain\":\"gmail.com\",\"name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"team\":null},\"recording_end_time\":\"2026-02-06T18:06:07Z\",\"recording_id\":120451269,\"recording_start_time\":\"2026-02-06T17:01:00Z\",\"scheduled_end_time\":\"2026-02-06T18:00:19Z\",\"scheduled_start_time\":\"2026-02-06T17:00:19Z\",\"share_url\":\"https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP\",\"title\":\"\ud83d\udc4b Hello, Lets talk about your FileMaker solution! (Steve Shouler)\",\"transcript\":[{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, it has been.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But yeah, so I wanted to, I know that we discussed moving over that server.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:04\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I just had a few questions on that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:14\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So if we were to move that over, would it entirely exist on my environment, or would it still be referencing data on your environment?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"No, it would be entirely on yours.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:31\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Because what I did is, I have an M4 Mac Mini that I don't use for anything.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:32\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So, and then I got a Perpetual FileMaker Pro license that I have from, I must have bought it a while ago when we originally started talking.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Um, but it's, it's just.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It's\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"They do updates up to 2026 on it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I got it for like 300-something bucks.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:03\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It was a single license, and I got it from Apple.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Is it FileMaker Pro or FileMaker Server?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Does it need to be one or the other?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:18\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, it'll need to be a FileMaker Server license.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It will need to be a FileMaker Server license.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Let me see what I got.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay, I have a FileMaker Pro.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:31\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, that won't work.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:35\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay, so it needs to be a FileMaker Server.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Whatever happened to this call.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:43\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So FileMaker Pro is okay for you to use the files locally, but not to host it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Not to host it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:52\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Now, when you say host it, what functionality would I lose?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I Okay, No.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Well, you can't access it from like the web, FileMaker Pro, so like you can't, you know how we're both talking to the file, that's because it's hosted by FileMaker server.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If it's not hosted, like nobody can connect to it except one person.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like if you're using FileMaker Pro, you can use the file just like Microsoft Office, right?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:24\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If you have Microsoft Office, if you have one file, you can access that file, but that file is not hosted.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That's what FileMaker server is for.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:38\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"FileMaker server allows the file to be hosted so it can talk to QuickBooks, so it can talk to Google, so it can talk to the other things that we're doing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:40\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Can't do that without FileMaker server.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay, so the API functionality would be lost without that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:51\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yes.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yes.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Interesting.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And like all of the server processes like run on that, like the things that take the file, you, I mean, you probably could run it without it, but it would be unreliable.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You'd probably be more frustrated than you are now with it running on my dev server because you'd have to make sure that the file's up and it's just, it's not really reliable.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's not built, FileMaker Pro is really not built for that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, it can do those things, but it just, it won't run reliably.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:36\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It's like the same, it's the same engine, but there's things that the server does that FileMaker Pro can't do on its own.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:36\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That's just how they designed it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:43\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And I'm seeing on FileMaker's website, FileMaker servers, like 17 bucks a month billed annually or something like that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I think I set set set you up.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"up.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"up.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"up.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I I I\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"There is a perpetual license, but I think it's like, I can look it up, I probably get you a little bit better deal on it than what you see on there, but it's, let I don't sell many of those, but let me see.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:04:06\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, perpetual on-premise is, that's my, that's my advice.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:04:24\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Start at sync, perpetual on-premise.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:04:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Does FileMaker, does it run on Windows also, or is it exclusively a Mac product?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It'll run on either.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It'll run on Windows, Linux, or Mac.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Server will.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:14\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Server will run on Linux.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"FileMaker Pro does not run on, you know, on any of the flavors of Linux.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I don't know that you would do that, typically, anyways.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But yeah, the server can run on Windows, I think, Server 20, 24 and above.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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but...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:06:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:06:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That M4 Mac is a good product to host it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:06:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"The only downside of that, obviously, is you need to make sure that it's up all the time, and that you're kind of taking care of it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:06:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, they're easy to take care of for the most part, but you still have to take care of it, right?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:06:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So yeah, so a perpetual license we can do for like $29.50 for the FileMaker server.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:07:10\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And I think I gave you the price for the annual hosting, I think it was around $1,000 a month, from what I recall, like maybe $10.50 or something like that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:07:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Got it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:07:31\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay, so you're saying that it could work on FileMaker Pro, but it may be unreliable.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:07:32\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If we did do it in FileMaker Pro anyways, we're going to have to do more development to get it to work, because I'd have to build an applet to receive those webhooks.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:07:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Because FileMaker Pro can't receive anything.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:07:51\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"When they accept the QuickBooks authentication, we send that to FileMaker\",\"timestamp\":\"00:07:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If FileMaker Pro can't receive anything because it's not built for that, would have to build a, that's why it would kind of be a, it's kind of a, it's, it's not ideal because we wind up having to build some workarounds around it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"then I'm staying, and then still at that point, it's kind of hokey, you know, it's not ideal.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If you did want to do that, I would almost say, it would be better, if you want to avoid licensing, to be honest, it'd probably be better just to rebuild the thing and, and something else.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:24\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, if that's really what you're trying to do.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:38\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like, like what though?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like what would you build it on?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:43\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Just in some kind of native, you know, React and Node.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:46\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So, I mean, things have changed.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:52\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"you have the ability to do?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:53\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Well, things have changed a lot since we built this.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:55\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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build, you know, like a PowerShell script on Windows that pulls the, like, attachments from emails, and it does it like a minute.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:09:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It really is amazing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:09:46\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"As long as it's something simple, because if you're not a developer, the more complex stuff you'd still have to somehow stitch together.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:09:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, and I mean, that's a thing there, you'd have to, you have\",\"timestamp\":\"00:09:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You to know the tools still, the stacks, it still gets, you know, it does a lot really well.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:10:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, the really cool part about it as a developer is I can spin up like six or seven agents and have them doing different things.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:10:07\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And then all I have to do is kind of test, iterate, and repeat, check the code.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:10:13\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I'm not writing all of that anymore.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:10:20\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So that's all changed.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:10:24\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You know, the front end, so what I would say is, if you really, if you really want to avoid the licensing, I would say we probably could like, like getting around the perpetual licensing, we'd probably spend $3,000 to $5,000 to just rewrite the whole thing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:10:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And then you don't have any licensing at all, we'd be done with that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:10:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And we just need to find a place to host a Linux server, which would be pretty cheap.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:10:49\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like in the $30 range, $30 to $50 range really wouldn't cost very much.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:10:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You maybe even could get it for less, but I would, you know, you want something with at least four gigs of RAM, which that's probably in the $30 range, just because it's processing a lot of, you're processing a lot of data.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:11:04\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"The thing I'm trying to determine here is I don't really make money on this product.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:11:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"We have service bureaus using it, like other companies using it, but I'm making like a few dollars, and then I use it for my clients.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:11:28\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And I'm trying to figure out the cheapest way to maintain it, but yet it also be somewhat reliable.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:11:38\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like, because you're saying that right now it's hosted on like your, what is it, like your, you said like a test server or your production server?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:11:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, it's on my development server with like a bunch of my clients' files that I test with, and that server gets hammered.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:11:53\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"We're not using it for production.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:12:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So when it goes down, nobody's paying attention to it unless they're using it, like unless one of my developers is actually physically using that server or somebody's testing, we don't know always that there's a problem.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:12:03\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And because your files running on there and your file is, you know, it does a lot, like it's got a lot going on.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:12:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And so it itself is taking up a lot of resources.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:12:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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don't have time to spend on it to, to, you know, I have a, the only production thing that's on there is my file that I use to manage my business in your file.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:13:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And I have problems with my file too.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:13:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Sometimes I'll come in and try to put in a timer entry for a client and my whole file will be down.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:13:13\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So I have to restart that, you know.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:13:18\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So it's just not ideal, especially, you know, we have to rely on something that it's crashing and such.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:13:22\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, yeah, because, I mean, ideally, I would just pay you a monthly fee to maintain it staying up.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:13:29\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But you're saying that it probably wouldn't stay up reliably anyway, because of, like you said, it's not really, the environment's not designed to stay up how it currently is.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:13:43\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It's not like a stable environment, I guess.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:13:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, you never want to.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:13:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Have something in the development server that's running like that just because it's, we're introducing new things and, you know, and the problem is nobody's paying attention.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:14:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, I can't, during the course of the week.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:14:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:14:12\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, we need it all the time.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:14:12\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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days.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:14:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And if nobody's actively watching that, then, you know, I do get emails, but you know, if I'm not, if I'm out of the office I\",\"timestamp\":\"00:14:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, we could add more features in there to restart it, but I mean, again, I can't promise you that we're not going to have these issues actually on the web server.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:15:03\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Right.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:15:18\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"No, no, no, I get 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platform.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:18:52\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Right.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:19:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, it's an interesting decision because some of the clients \u2013 essentially what's happening in the landscape of payroll on my end is the system I licensed for the payroll software, it's called Assure.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:19:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"There were 200 resellers that also licensed that system, and together we made up 120,000 or represented 120,000 businesses, so we do payroll for 120,000 businesses.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:19:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"A lot of the big resellers that use Assure are migrating away from Assure, so that means some 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would have said no.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If you would have asked me a year ago, I would have said, well, yeah, it's progressing really fast, but I don't know.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Now I'm like, I have no clue.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:24\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like, I don't know.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like, next year, if you're going to be able just to type a prompt in and, you know, it knows you so well about what your expectation is, that it can just build a whole website.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I can't promise you that it won't be able to do that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I wouldn't be surprised if it did do that, although I also wouldn't, I also would not be, I mean, I would be surprised, you know, I could, I would be surprised either way.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I think a year from now, we might be looking at this things.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Wow, it doesn't do quite as much.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"As I thought yet still, or wow, it does, you know, kind of what the trajectory it's been going on.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:22:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I, you I just don't know.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:22:07\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"We just don't know at this point.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:22:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So, you know, I mean, the other thing is, is you have to kind of weigh the, so right now we're doing a lot, and I'm still crazy busy.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:22:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:23:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"You know how it is.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:23:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, I get it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:23:03\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And then the other thing is recently, and I know you maybe like a year or so ago, I don't recall when, you added a feature where like if the authentication process is successful or fails, it sends you and I an email.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:23:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But there's this guy, and the service bureau, one of the service bureaus that are actually using this tool, they've been harassing me because when he tries to authenticate, it connects, then the file gets pushed, I call it a 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error.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But we never could figure that out.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And it's still doing it to him?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:10\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, he's been, he's never been able to connect.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, I don't remember the name, but...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It was under Serendipity, the Service Bureau Serendipity.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But, you know, I wasn't sure if that was a symptom of the environment, like something wasn't running, or if that was maybe a special situation with somehow his setup in QuickBooks.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:24\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Well, last time, if you're, it's the same guy that I responded to last time, they were, he was disconnected.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Which company was it?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So Service Bureau Serendipity Payroll, and the company was A1 Vehicle Group.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, it says, it says he's in that...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, if I push that authentication to him, he will connect.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It will change the status to connected.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:07\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'll be able to see it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"The file will then go, or the data will go a few minutes later, and then I'll check again, and then it'll say re-authentication, and it will show that the file is error.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:10\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Why don't you do this?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"mean, the problem I have with testing that is, is the last time I couldn't test it because he wasn't authenticated.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Can we have him re-authenticate, and then can you send me the file, and I'll try to process it manually so I can see what exactly is failing, if anything?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:31\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Well, I have a copy.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"You store a copy of those files right on the...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I do, but I don't, I do, but I need, so I don't want to push it out because I don't know if that'll foul them up.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:46\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So if you want to tell me it's authenticated, can you try...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:55\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I don't necessarily want to push data to their QuickBooks file, you know, knowing that maybe they've already hand entered it or however they've done 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logic.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:26:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, well, QuickBooks did change their, I don't know if you're, I don't know if you're registered to the dev thing, they made a bunch, they made some big changes, they started charging for their API access, which is one of them.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Really?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, so it's, I think I'm paying, I'm in the silver tier or something like that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I think it's 59 bucks a month.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:26\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, I have enough clients using it that it, that it's fine.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You know, I have to get enough development work out of it still that I don't mind paying for it, but it's not like a big ticket thing for me anymore.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:32\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So that's another thing I have to kind of consider as well as like, you know, if I.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, the cost.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:46\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"That's interesting.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"mean, I heard, if you recall, we were thinking about a while ago, an app that would check people's bank accounts to see if they had sufficient funds to cover the payroll debit.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's about to occur.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Now I heard Chase.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Chase is actually going that route.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:03\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"If you want access to their bank account, you have to pay a fee to Chase.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, I'm sure that it's the next big thing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Everybody's going to start doing that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:12\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"They have to monetize everything nowadays.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, I mean, that's going to suck for small development firms, in my opinion, but little projects here and there.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:20\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"If you have a lot of clients, I guess they'll get offset.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But I don't know.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:29\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, I mean, you know, it's not a big deal.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:33\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's just something to consider.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:36\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I don't, you know, I don't foresee it being, you know, an issue for me long term.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, it's still it's still a good amount of money that I make from QuickBooks integration.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So I don't mind maintaining them in the profile and all that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:46\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But I don't know.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:52\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I do have a limit of how many I can send and I don't think it's that I'll double check it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"don't Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"you.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So like the, I'm on like the silver tier, which is the higher tier is expensive.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I wouldn't, I definitely would stop doing it if I had to pay for the higher tier.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So I think it's like a thousand or $1,200 a month for the next tier up.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But I don't think I'm any, it's, it's a big jump.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:14\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like I'm definitely not, I don't think I'm anywhere near.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I will check it just to make sure, like, I can see like how many of my calls are allotted and yours does quite a bit, but I don't think we're anywhere near that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"we, you know, like we're talking huge, the gold tier is like, you know, Avalara type clients or fishbowl, you know, huge integration companies that integrate with QuickBooks.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So I'll double check that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I don't think that's a problem, but yeah, out of curiosity, is there a way for you to quickly filter data?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:49\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like, is it possible for you to see, for example, in the month?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"How many unique service bureaus and companies sent a file to QuickBooks that are not under PayNortheast?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I guess we're trying to determine.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I guess I don't completely understand.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If they sent a file that they're not, I mean, I can do whatever query we want.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:20\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I just need to understand what it is.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:28\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, I'm trying to figure out how many, like I'm looking at the list of service bureaus here, and I don't know how many of them are still actively even using this.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"You know, like the list looks pretty long, but I know some of them sold.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"They're no longer a payroll company.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, I can do that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:46\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, I can list on here.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, we can, I can make you a, I can make you a little quick list that shows when the last connection was made.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:49\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Sure.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:55\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Or when the last file was received.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Not so much like a last file.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"How can I say this?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"You have a process log on here, I see.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And in that process log, I could filter by date or show today.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:04\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And when I show today, it's going to show me every file sent today, which makes sense.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"What I'm trying to determine is, like, I would love the ability to filter that to say, okay, also just show me unique files sent to that company.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So if McDonald's sent 10 files this month, or today, show McDonald's once, you know what I mean?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:28\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like, the process log is great.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:36\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I like what you show here.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But is there a way to also add the ability to summarize it by unique service bureau and or companies?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like, I'm just trying to figure out how many companies are actually using it that are not mine.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Oh, gotcha.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like, cause I, my clients are using it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"happy.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'll Bye.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Bye.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But, you know, how many service bureaus and how many companies also are still using this?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I guess that helps to gauge, is it still worth investing in?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:06\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:13\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Okay, sure.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I can do that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I can add in.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So you want to see.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:20\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like for that date range, like if I select the date range of the whole month of February, and Megapay had 10 unique companies, just, I don't even need to see the companies.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I just need to know that Megapay had 10 unique companies send a file that month, you know, and then on to the next one.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:38\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I I don't know how you would do that, but I guess essentially in that date range, how many unique companies for that service bureau sent a file.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I think I understand.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I can make you a list for that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, because if there are still a decent number of people using it, then I guess I will go down the road.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And like you said, maybe in a year it'll be more cost effective to do it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:08\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But then what do we do for that year?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:12\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"We just maintain status quo, or what do you recommend?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, it's fine on there.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:22\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I just want you to know it is what it is.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"At this point, there's not a lot I can do.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:28\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Right, no, that makes sense.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:31\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It's just more of the same.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:33\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If you don't have a lot of companies on it, it's fine.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:34\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's been there.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:36\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I just, you know, the server is stale.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's being backed up.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:41\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's doing all the things that a server should do.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I'm just telling you, I shouldn't say it's stable.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's mostly stable.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But you know what it is.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:51\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"No, and that makes sense.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:55\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"What did strike me as odd is you mentioned that\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"That the tool that we have is using a lot of, you know, doing a lot.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But yet my biggest client, like I said, they migrated away.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:06\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Megapay migrated away.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'm curious if we still get, if we're still getting data for them, is it still being processed?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:12\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like, the payroll system may still send the email address, the report.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So unless Megapay goes in and ends that, we're still going to get the data from Megapay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I can look.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:35\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I can look.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'm in the data right now.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I can tell you when the last Megapay came through.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, we're still getting data from Megapay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So we're processing all of that regardless.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:49\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And we're getting a lot of data.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:53\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"way.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:55\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"We're getting a fair amount of data from them.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I wouldn't say actually.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"actually.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"We're not getting a lot, but I mean, we've gotten 50 in the last month.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:07\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"When you build that report to show like a count, can you also build a way to only process the data if the service bureau is listed as active?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And then in that instance, I'll be able to like deactivate a service bureau?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:18\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, I mean, I could add a button in there that just says if we get something from the service bureau to ignore it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Sure.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, because they, they totally.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:32\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"you're, you're getting, and it's still processing these ones that are coming through from Megapay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:35\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like the ones that we're receiving, I see that they're successfully being processed.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:41\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Interesting.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So they, they skirted the billing, but they found a way to still get use of the tool.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Interesting.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'm getting like Sageway Logistics.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Greater optics, top-notch appliances, these are all still going through up till PA Developers, Inc., Orchid appraisals, these are all still going through.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And there's some big ones in here, 278 transactions.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So yeah, mean, that's just, they're overhead.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:22\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, they're, you know, whatever.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's, at this point, it is what it is, but, but yeah, we have to take that apart, we have to extract the email, we have to loop through, we have to connect to QuickBooks, I mean, there's, it's process, right?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's, it's doing things.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And it's taking away from the other ones it needs to run.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Do you want to, like, why don't I just make this, this is a summary list where I can...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:53\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You can see all the SBOs, sub-summarize with the companies and how many processes they did for each one.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"That would probably tell you everything you need to know.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"That's an easy report.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:06\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"You know what I was just thinking, actually?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I wonder if I should just take the process log screen, set the date range to the beginning of January to the end of January, and then just copy and paste it into an Excel file and manipulate it or something, you know?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:10\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Well, I can just give you an Excel export if you want that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"That could work, too, because then I could just filter by Unique or something.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:28\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Because, yeah, it looks like there are still people using it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:33\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Pay Plus, Payroll Systems is another one that's about to leave.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:36\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"They're switching payroll platforms.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, the tool, the usefulness of the tool is diminishing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"That's why I don't want to invest too much into it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But at the same time, I hate to lose.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"How many clients are we talking about?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Hundreds or dozens?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"What, for my clients?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:18\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:20\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I think so.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:22\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'm listed under PayNortheast.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Let's see.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I do last month.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:26\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Let me do last month.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:31\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Just waiting for it to load here.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:35\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Last month, I processed 19 unique companies.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Let's just error on the side of larger volumes, so we'll say that they were processed weekly, and we'll do a five-week one.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:41\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So I would have sent 95 files, essentially, to you.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"95 unique companies.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"no.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Not unique companies, unique files, I should say.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Do you think, like, I wonder, another thing to maybe consider is just running a process periodically?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:08\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, if you get it down to 19, that's not that many.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Maybe you do use FileMaker Pro, maybe you just bring it up on your laptop and run it periodically.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:28\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I don't know.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:35\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That way you don't need a server.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You just keep the file, you know, make sure it's backed up and all that, and just press a button and it runs everything on your local machine.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Well, the problem is, like, where, if you recall the word, like, the process flow, it sends an email, you're grabbing that file.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Would I have to manually download each file?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"No, you just press a button.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:04\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So there's a process that does all this in my server, on the server now.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So we would just give you a button and then you'd press it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:10\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It does that process, checks your emails, does what it needs to do.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:13\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Here's the thing about all of these, about anything that you do, it all just requires a trigger.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"In the case of running it on the server, the trigger is that we run this every 15 minutes or whatever it is.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Maybe it's five minutes.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:31\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I can't remember exactly the timing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:32\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So whenever you run a process, whether that's an individual clicking a button or a timed trigger, you just need a space to do that, which is FileMaker server or your laptop, and you need a trigger for that to happen, right?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:34\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Now that trigger could be other things on your laptop or on your FileMaker server, could be a cron event.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And that goes off on your your\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And you could do it that way, too.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"We could put it on your FileMaker server, just have a cron event running that triggers that to happen, what we're doing now on the server, and it just does that, and you just use FileMaker Pro.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:04\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"The problem still being that there's no way to connect the device.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So when they authenticate, that's all web technology, right?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:24\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I think I did that all on PHP.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And that PHP sends data to the FileMaker server through a secure webhook.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:32\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That's basically like a tunnel of connection between two different databases.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"There is no way to do that in FileMaker Pro.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So that part would be tricky.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like you'd need to figure out a way if you wanted to bring a new client on or you wanted an existing client that needed to re-authenticate for any reason.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:53\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"The other thing I might recommend to you, and I don't, is if you, you can look into this.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:42:13\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I'm not going to recommend this because I don't know if this is kosher.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:42:24\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You look into something Setting up your own FileMaker developer account, and you may be able to get FileMaker at a developer.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:42:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I don't want to, I don't know what the EULA will allow for this, but you might be able to get FileMaker server at a discount if you buy the developer version, but you might want to look into that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:42:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You didn't hear it from me.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:42:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'll let you do that research on your own and see if it's something that works for you, but...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:42:55\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Right In I\u9b06iesConsumer.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:42:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"make ...reme Last Thank Myrito.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:42:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And then, you know, if that works, you don't have to tell me about it, about any of it, I'll just, we'll go from there.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But you can check that part out, too.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:06\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Right, right.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Otherwise, we try and see if it's cheaper in a year to revamp this thing you're saying.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, mean, it may be better just to leave it the way it is.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And since the importance of its diminishing anyway, who cares if it doesn't function 100%.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Wow, that's interesting.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"On a side note, in terms of AI, I know you mentioned that it's helping you with development.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:49\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Are you able to, are you seeing\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Can anyone that you make programs for actually utilize AI that you develop?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:44:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like, for example, maybe tools to assist them.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:44:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I guess I'm just curious what other people that you write programs for are creating these days.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:44:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, the landscape is totally changing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:44:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"mean, yeah, everything.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:44:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, just entirely from how we're starting to communicate 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what needs to be done.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:46:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And put all that together.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:46:53\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"mean, what it can do with with you you\",\"timestamp\":\"00:46:55\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Um, good prompts is just incredible.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:47:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, and it comes down to that, like, it's like telling, you have to teach it first, like, I guess the simplest way I can put it is like, think of it as an assistant.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:47:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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something.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:47:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But if you give it enough information, what it can produce is absolutely amazing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:47:33\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Now, you still have to take what's left over.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:47:38\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And this is the part that I'm still useful for, and do something with it, right?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:47:40\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Because it doesn't do a good job of that part.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:47:46\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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boggling.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, and the ease and the flow of everything is just, I mean, everything's going to be changed.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I don't think, in three years from now, if we're still looking at layouts and interfaces like we are, I'd be very surprised.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:12\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I don't think we will be.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:20\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I think we'll be looking at more chat type interfaces where we're saying, you know, do XX and X and X, show me what that PDF looks like.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:22\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Hey, remember when I told you to put in, you know, you know, for customer XYZ, can you tell me what we, I mean, I don't think you probably still want to see lists, but I don't think we'll be navigating as much as like we used to.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It'll be more of a prompt type interface.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I agree with that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"mean, I use Gemini every day, every day, all day.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:49\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I love Gemini.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:53\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I love Gemini.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I love Gemini.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"God.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I feel like payroll is the perfect industry for AI because it's just raw data.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"You run a report, show me how much overtime I paid in February, stuff like 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people.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:35\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"They can't possibly stay on top of all of them, and especially construction companies.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"They want a job cost.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"How much time do we spend at McDonald's over here versus that McDonald's?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:46\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"What was the reason for the difference in labor?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Things like that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And I've been trying to figure out a way.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So even if this quick .\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'm trying to figure out a way to modernize the way people view the payroll data, especially in construction industries where they're trying to stay on budget and they're trying to track the costs per building and compare them so they could then forecast and estimate future projects.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:50:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"More 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generates, it grabs it and loads it into a Google sheet.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:50:51\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And And it's.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:50:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It adds it to the end of the existing Google Sheet for that client, but, you know, there's still Gemini's in Google Sheets, but it's still not as user-friendly as, like you just said, a text prompt, or maybe some canned text prompts that people could click on, like frequently used prompts, I'll call it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:51:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And I'm trying to see what that would look like if we were to go down that road, like if we were to develop a tool, like a report viewer, a report writer tool, where, like you said, it's kind of prompt driven.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:51:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, it's there, it's still not easy, but it is there, like you, it's there, like the information is there.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:51:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So the problem still is in the industry that it requires...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:51:55\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:51:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:51:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:51:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:51:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Patience to get it to where you want it to be like it still requires someone to refine prompts see where understand the data understand what it's like, not to the point where in it, it may get here where you can just throw a bunch of data at it and say tell me something interesting about my data.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:52:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Here's the problem we're trying to solve.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:52:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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have the data, you have to explain the problem and what you're trying to solve, and you have to explain what the data does and what you expect to get back from it to some degree.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:53:04\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And if you can do all of those things, then you can get what you're after.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:53:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Now, coming up with a good way to do all that is also the tricky part to it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:53:20\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But I mean, at least if you have that, that is kind of the hard part is those three or four things like problem, data, data explanation, and then, you know, what you want to see out of the data.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:53:26\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Because you have to tell it all those things, you have to say, a good prompt and a good AI, you know, is to say something like, hey, Gemini, as a data analyst, your job is to do XX and X, I want you to look for, through this data, this data includes.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:53:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"We information for one or more jobs.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:54:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Here's the job field, here's the data field, here's the time field.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:54:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Now, we're also working on this other, you know, you're going to compare that data against an ongoing job, and we need a report to define, you know, if you could explain all this really well to it, it can do those things.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:54:10\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I know it can, because I've seen it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:54:22\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:54:26\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, I mean, I use Gemini, like I said, religiously, I upload contracts, it looks through the contract, and then, like you said, you have to know what to ask for, it's not just going to say, oh, well, it looks like your exposure is this, it's just going to, you have to know to ask the 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still have to make sure that that data is what you expect.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:56:26\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And you kind of have to guide users.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:56:40\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So like if users ask stupid questions, you can set up an AI to say, hey, I only, you know, I don't understand your request.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:56:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So you have to like, make sure that you're kind of heading on off.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:56:51\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That's still where the human intelligence, you can't kind of take that away at this point yet.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:56:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's gotten better.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:56:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's amazing, like the things that it does catch, but you still have to kind of, again, the prompt is, like, hey, you're going to receive this information from the user.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:57:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If they ask something stupid or that you don't understand, don't just make it up, you know, be stringent.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:57:08\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like, if that's not a good question, say, hey, I don't understand your question.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:57:14\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You have to, like, really be specific.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:57:18\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Right.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:57:22\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"That's kind of what I've seen.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:57:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like, I've had it, like, we, like, in that system I was just telling you about, we're integrating a messaging system through Zoom, where they send a message, Zoom receives it, it goes into their old FileMaker system, we send the request to AI, we have a bunch of rules, like, it says, like, hey, if they ask about a customer, they might, you know, I tell it, hey, if they ask about a customer, they may be just asking for a phone number or information about how to get a hold of them.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:57:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So this may be a simple request, or this may be a more complicated request, if you don't understand the specific answers based on the rules, and they actually now type in the rules of, like, what.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:57:51\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"The kind of questions that are expected to come in, then just say, don't understand the request, but they'll say things like, they have like a list of prompts that they put into their FileMaker system now that says, you know, I often we need, we often need to get a phone number if we call you asking about, or if we text you asking about customer John Smith, can we have a phone number, just simply return the phone number, right, because it was doing all kinds of crazy .\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"We had to really refine that down.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:26\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And now, as their prompts get longer, it gets a little confusing, too, because like it gets confused about what it's supposed to do, even with as the they get more and more of these different things they wanted to do.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:29\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It gets even a little confused about what it's supposed to do between those.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So you have to be really, really specific with it if you want to get good data back.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Very interesting.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:51\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Well, one thing's for sure, the world is definitely changing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:53\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That's for sure.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That's certain.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And if you've never seen iRobot, maybe go check out that movie.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I've seen it a couple of days.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"My kids were obsessed with it for a few years back when they still were kids.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:06\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"They're adults now, but yeah, we watched it a few times.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, well, I heard Elon announce that he's no longer manufacturing the Model S and the Model X because now they're retooling those factories to go all in on that Tesla robot.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Well, he also said that in five years, he doesn't think that he says that his Tesla, what is it called?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:28\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Optimus is going to be a better surgeon, the best surgeon in the world.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:38\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"He said, yeah, five years.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:41\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"They asked him, do you think, would you recommend your kids become surgeons?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And he's like, no, probably not.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Would you recommend they go to college?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Maybe for the social experience?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:52\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"No, but probably not.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It's probably not worth the money.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I don't know.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"mean, what do people do?\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It's going to be mass unemployment.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, I don't know.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I don't know.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:08\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I was hoping to squeeze five more years out of it.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If I get five years at this point, I'm good.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:12\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I'll become a, you know, I like to run.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I like to spend time in the forest, so that's better for you anyways, and sit in front of a computer.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That's the way I'm looking at it.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"There you go.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, well, I think one day, my job's going to be doomed.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:26\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Well, here's the thing.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:32\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, you look at the bright side of life.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:34\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's if nobody has any money, then nobody's going to spend money.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"We're going to have to figure it out.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You know, it won't work.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:43\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So you can't have mass unemployment.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And what good does it do these AI overlords to have all this money if nobody else has any, but what are they going to do?\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, the world would suck.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So everybody, they're in this boat too, you know, like they, it's not, the world's not going to be a very good place for them either.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You know, if, if, if the money is concentrated into four or five people, what good is that?\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:07\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You, you know, you, you can't, people won't, you know, you still need people doing things.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:12\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So we'll figure it out.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's going to be hard.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:18\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Don't, I don't think that, I mean, it's going to be hard.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And I'm not going say it's going be easy transition, but we'll figure it out.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And yeah, I think we're going to build better things.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:26\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Maybe, you know, hopefully we'll build, you know, just like in the software business right now, I'm still busy.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:29\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I'm building better things faster now.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:34\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"One day it's going to be like Star Trek.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It's just going to be a very messy transition to get there.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:41\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's exciting and scary all at the same time.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I try not to think about it too much.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Cause I, I read in, in, in, in.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:52\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I know probably more than I, I need to know more, more than I can do anything about.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:55\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So, you know, what can you do?\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Put your head down.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:03\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"One day we may all be joining you in the forest.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:07\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And again, I'm fine with that.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I love it.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:13\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, I'm happy.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:13\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I wish I could get outside more.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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lost.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:33\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's a little muddy.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:40\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's been warm this year, so the running kind of sucks when it's like this.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:40\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Because it's fine when the ground's frozen and it's snowing, that's fine.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But like, it's been warm and not very much snow.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So that, that kind of stinks.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:52\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"The mud's not that great, but still.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Oh, can have hours snow.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"We've got plenty.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I've been watching.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I've seen them.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:03\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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now.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Oh, man.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:22\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"All right, then what I'll do then is when you send that Excel file, if you could download that Excel file, what I'll do is...\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'm just going to put a button on here for you to do it yourself.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:32\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"There you go.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:36\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And then you can have it whenever you want.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:38\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It'll only take me like 10 minutes, so I'm just going to put it on here and then you can just do it whenever you want.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:40\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And then is there a way you could delete MegaPay as a service bureau so we stop processing their files?\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Why don't we just do what I said?\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:53\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I'll just give you a button and make them inactive.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I don't want to delete you.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You don't want to delete it, right?\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Because you want your data.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So...\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's always good to keep your data, you may not know, it might be useful in the future, you just never know, I always advise archiving over deleting, like if you really want to, we could at least keep you a backup of it, and if you really want to delete it, we can delete it, but I'll just put an inactive button on here, and you can just inactivate the whole SBO, and then when I get something from them, we'll just ignore it.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:04:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Perfect.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:04:29\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"That's the easiest way to do it.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:04:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"right, and then what I'll do is I'll look through the data that I pulled after you had that button to download the Excel file to see who's actually using it.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:04:31\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I guess that'll help me determine if it's still feasible or worth investing in, I guess.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:04:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:04:49\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Sounds good.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:04:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"All right, awesome.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:04:52\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"All right, as always, Sean, it's a pleasure.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:04:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, it nice talking with you.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:04:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You're\",\"timestamp\":\"01:04:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Thanks, Steve.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:05:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"All right.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:05:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Have a good one.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:05:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Take care.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:05:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"You 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the client's FileMaker Pro license cannot host the solution, which requires a FileMaker Server license for its API integrations (QuickBooks) and multi-user access.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=4.0)\\n  - [**Two Paths Forward:**](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=428.0)\\n      - [**Option 1 (FileMaker Server):** Purchase a perpetual license (\\\\~$2,950) or pay for cloud hosting (\\\\~$1,050\/mo).](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=428.0)\\n      - [**Option 2 (Web Rewrite):** Rewrite the solution as a web app (React\/Node) for a fixed price of up to $5,000, eliminating FileMaker licensing costs.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=627.0)\\n  - [**Decision Deferred:** The client will use a new usage report to assess the solution's value before committing to a path, as its profitability is declining.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1789.0)\\n  - [**Immediate Fixes:** Sean will add a usage report and a \\\"deactivate\\\" button for service bureaus (SBOs) to stop processing files from non-paying clients like Megapay.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3805.0)\\n\\n## Topics\\n\\n### Problem: Unreliable Hosting Environment\\n\\n  - [The solution runs on Sean's development server, causing instability and downtime.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=705.0)\\n  - [**Root Causes:**](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=705.0)\\n      - [The server is \\\"hammered\\\" by other client files and frequent testing.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=705.0)\\n      - [The FileMaker Data API crashes regularly, despite multiple reinstalls.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=760.0)\\n      - [Script processes (e.g., email checks) sometimes hang, consuming resources.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=858.0)\\n  - [**Impact:**](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1374.0)\\n      - [Unreliable service \u2192 client frustration.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1374.0)\\n      - [A specific QuickBooks error for client A1 Vehicle Group (via SBO Serendipity) causes repeated disconnections.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1385.0)\\n\\n### Solution Paths & Costs\\n\\n  - [**Path 1: FileMaker Server**](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=428.0)\\n      - [**Requirement:** A FileMaker Server license is mandatory.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=71.0)\\n      - [**Rationale:** It enables API integrations (QuickBooks) and multi-user access via webhooks. A FileMaker Pro license cannot host the solution.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=114.0)\\n      - [**Hosting Options:**](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=428.0)\\n          - [**Self-Hosted (M4 Mac Mini):** Requires a perpetual license (\\\\~$2,950).](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=428.0)\\n          - [**Cloud-Hosted:** \\\\~$1,050\/month (Sean's service).](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=428.0)\\n  - [**Path 2: Web App Rewrite**](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=627.0)\\n      - [**Proposal:** Rewrite the solution in React\/Node.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=522.0)\\n      - [**Cost:** Fixed price of up to $5,000.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1080.0)\\n      - [**Rationale:** Eliminates FileMaker licensing costs. The existing FileMaker solution provides a clear blueprint, making the rewrite efficient.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=983.0)\\n      - [**Hosting:** A separate Linux server (\\\\~$30-50\/mo) would be needed.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=627.0)\\n\\n### Decision Driver: Assessing Value\\n\\n  - [The client's profitability from the solution is declining as major SBOs (e.g., Megapay) migrate away from the underlying Assure payroll platform.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1141.0)\\n  - [**Action:** Sean will add a usage report to help the client assess the solution's current value.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1789.0)\\n      - [**Report Details:** Summarizes unique companies processed per SBO within a date range.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1899.0)\\n      - [**Format:** An in-app button will generate an Excel export.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3805.0)\\n\\n### Immediate Fixes\\n\\n  - [**Megapay Files:** The solution is still processing files from Megapay, a former client. This consumes server resources for non-revenue work.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=2046.0)\\n      - [**Action:** Sean will add a \\\"deactivate\\\" button for SBOs.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3827.0)\\n      - [**Functionality:** Inactivating an SBO will cause the system to ignore all future files from that bureau.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3827.0)\\n\\n## Next Steps\\n\\n  - [**Sean:**](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3805.0)\\n      - [Add an \\\"Export Usage Report\\\" button to the app.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3805.0)\\n      - [Add a \\\"Deactivate SBO\\\" button to prevent processing files from non-paying clients.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3827.0)\\n      - [Investigate the A1 Vehicle Group QuickBooks error once the client re-authenticates.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=1521.0)\\n  - [**Client:**](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3871.0)\\n      - [Use the usage report to assess the solution's value and profitability.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3871.0)\\n      - [Decide between the FileMaker Server and Web App Rewrite paths based on the assessment.](https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP?tab=summary&timestamp=3871.0)\\n\",\"template_name\":\"General\"},\"meeting_title\":\"\ud83d\udc4b Hello, Lets talk about your FileMaker solution! (Steve Shouler)\",\"recorded_by\":{\"email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\",\"email_domain\":\"gmail.com\",\"name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"team\":null},\"recording_end_time\":\"2026-02-06T18:06:07Z\",\"recording_id\":120451269,\"recording_start_time\":\"2026-02-06T17:01:00Z\",\"scheduled_end_time\":\"2026-02-06T18:00:19Z\",\"scheduled_start_time\":\"2026-02-06T17:00:19Z\",\"share_url\":\"https:\/\/fathom.video\/share\/yb9rSozvpRvzfPx4zzv7ssShNx8Q2HTP\",\"title\":\"\ud83d\udc4b Hello, Lets talk about your FileMaker solution! (Steve Shouler)\",\"transcript\":[{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, it has been.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But yeah, so I wanted to, I know that we discussed moving over that server.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:04\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I just had a few questions on that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:14\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So if we were to move that over, would it entirely exist on my environment, or would it still be referencing data on your environment?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"No, it would be entirely on yours.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:31\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Because what I did is, I have an M4 Mac Mini that I don't use for anything.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:32\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So, and then I got a Perpetual FileMaker Pro license that I have from, I must have bought it a while ago when we originally started talking.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Um, but it's, it's just.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It's\",\"timestamp\":\"00:00:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"They do updates up to 2026 on it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I got it for like 300-something bucks.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:03\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It was a single license, and I got it from Apple.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Is it FileMaker Pro or FileMaker Server?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Does it need to be one or the other?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:18\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, it'll need to be a FileMaker Server license.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It will need to be a FileMaker Server license.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Let me see what I got.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay, I have a FileMaker Pro.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:31\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, that won't work.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:35\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay, so it needs to be a FileMaker Server.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Whatever happened to this call.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:43\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So FileMaker Pro is okay for you to use the files locally, but not to host it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Not to host it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:52\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Now, when you say host it, what functionality would I lose?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I Okay, No.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Well, you can't access it from like the web, FileMaker Pro, so like you can't, you know how we're both talking to the file, that's because it's hosted by FileMaker server.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:01:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If it's not hosted, like nobody can connect to it except one person.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like if you're using FileMaker Pro, you can use the file just like Microsoft Office, right?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:24\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If you have Microsoft Office, if you have one file, you can access that file, but that file is not hosted.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That's what FileMaker server is for.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:38\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"FileMaker server allows the file to be hosted so it can talk to QuickBooks, so it can talk to Google, so it can talk to the other things that we're doing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:40\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Can't do that without FileMaker server.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay, so the API functionality would be lost without that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:51\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yes.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yes.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:02:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Interesting.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And like all of the server processes like run on that, like the things that take the file, you, I mean, you probably could run it without it, but it would be unreliable.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You'd probably be more frustrated than you are now with it running on my dev server because you'd have to make sure that the file's up and it's just, it's not really reliable.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's not built, FileMaker Pro is really not built for that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, it can do those things, but it just, it won't run reliably.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:36\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It's like the same, it's the same engine, but there's things that the server does that FileMaker Pro can't do on its own.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:36\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That's just how they designed it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:43\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And I'm seeing on FileMaker's website, FileMaker servers, like 17 bucks a month billed annually or something like that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I think I set set set you up.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"up.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"up.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"up.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I I I\",\"timestamp\":\"00:03:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"There is a perpetual license, but I think it's like, I can look it up, I probably get you a little bit better deal on it than what you see on there, but it's, let I don't sell many of those, but let me see.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:04:06\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, perpetual on-premise is, that's my, that's my advice.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:04:24\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Start at sync, perpetual on-premise.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:04:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Does FileMaker, does it run on Windows also, or is it exclusively a Mac product?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It'll run on either.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It'll run on Windows, Linux, or Mac.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Server will.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:14\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Server will run on Linux.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"FileMaker Pro does not run on, you know, on any of the flavors of Linux.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I don't know that you would do that, typically, anyways.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But yeah, the server can run on Windows, I think, Server 20, 24 and above.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I'm sorry, 20, 22 and above.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:33\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I think any of the M1 Macs at this point, and then Ubuntu, like, 24 or something, LTS 24.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And you can self-host it or, or host it in the cloud, or host it in FileMaker's cloud, although I would...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:05:53\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I had some issues with FileMaker's cloud, especially for your implementation, I would kind of avoid that, but you could still host it in the cloud, I would just wouldn't host it at FileMaker's specific cloud, but...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:06:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:06:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That M4 Mac is a good product to host it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:06:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"The only downside of that, obviously, is you need to make sure that it's up all the time, and that you're kind of taking care of it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:06:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, they're easy to take care of for the most part, but you still have to take care of it, right?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:06:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You still have to make sure it's up, you still have to make sure it's running and connected to everything, you know, so...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:06:34\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But it is a good product, and they do still have some people doing on-premise hosting.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:06:40\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You know, it's sort of skewing towards...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:06:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Obviously, it's skewing more towards cloud hosting nowadays, but we have...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:06:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I have a few clients that still do on-premise hosting, and they, you know, it's not...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:06:55\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"The\",\"timestamp\":\"00:06:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That's huge amount of work for that, to do that, to maintain this.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:07:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Interesting, okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:07:06\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So really you're recommending.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:07:08\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So yeah, so a perpetual license we can do for like $29.50 for the FileMaker server.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:07:10\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And I think I gave you the price for the annual hosting, I think it was around $1,000 a month, from what I recall, like maybe $10.50 or something like that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:07:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Got it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:07:31\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay, so you're saying that it could work on FileMaker Pro, but it may be unreliable.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:07:32\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If we did do it in FileMaker Pro anyways, we're going to have to do more development to get it to work, because I'd have to build an applet to receive those webhooks.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:07:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Because FileMaker Pro can't receive anything.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:07:51\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"When they accept the QuickBooks authentication, we send that to FileMaker\",\"timestamp\":\"00:07:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If FileMaker Pro can't receive anything because it's not built for that, would have to build a, that's why it would kind of be a, it's kind of a, it's, it's not ideal because we wind up having to build some workarounds around it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"then I'm staying, and then still at that point, it's kind of hokey, you know, it's not ideal.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If you did want to do that, I would almost say, it would be better, if you want to avoid licensing, to be honest, it'd probably be better just to rebuild the thing and, and something else.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:24\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, if that's really what you're trying to do.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:38\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like, like what though?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like what would you build it on?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:43\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Just in some kind of native, you know, React and Node.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:46\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So, I mean, things have changed.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:52\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"you have the ability to do?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:53\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Well, things have changed a lot since we built this.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:08:55\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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range really wouldn't cost very much.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:10:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You maybe even could get it for less, but I would, you know, you want something with at least four gigs of RAM, which that's probably in the $30 range, just because it's processing a lot of, you're processing a lot of data.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:11:04\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"The thing I'm trying to determine here is I don't really make money on this product.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:11:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"We have service bureaus using it, like other companies using it, but I'm making like a few dollars, and then I use it for my 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production.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:12:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So when it goes down, nobody's paying attention to it unless they're using it, like unless one of my developers is actually physically using that server or somebody's testing, we don't know always that there's a problem.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:12:03\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And because your files running on there and your file is, you know, it does a lot, like it's got a lot going on.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:12:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And so it itself is taking up a lot of resources.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:12:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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days.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:14:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And if nobody's actively watching that, then, you know, I do get emails, but you know, if I'm not, if I'm out of the office I\",\"timestamp\":\"00:14:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, we could add more features in there to restart it, but I mean, again, I can't promise you that we're not going to have these issues actually on the web server.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:15:03\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Right.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:15:18\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"No, no, no, I get it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:15:18\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And you could do this in FileMaker Pro if you wanted to.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:15:20\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I just, then you would be responsible, then you would have to be responsible for making sure these processes are all running.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:15:24\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And there are some processes that we need that aren't available, so we would have to build those.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:15:32\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And I think that I would recommend against that, just because that's more development time and money.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:15:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And they're going to be hokey.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:15:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"They're not even going be as good as, well, they'll be as good as FileMaker Server.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:15:43\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But I mean, it was still, you're going to have an extra thing to maintain.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:15:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You're going to have to make sure FileMaker Pro is running and this other applet is running all the time.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:15:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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probably rebuild it for like five brands or so.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:16:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, based on, so the nice thing, and I've talked, I have a colleague, we kind of commiserate on some of these things that we were just talking about this the other day.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:16:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You know, FileMaker has always been a really great, what's the word for it, prototyping tool too.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:16:36\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like, you need to build something fast and, you know, hard, it's really easy to get it in.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:16:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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platform.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:18:52\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Right.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:19:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, it's an interesting decision because some of the clients \u2013 essentially what's happening in the landscape of payroll on my end is the system I licensed for the payroll software, it's called Assure.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:19:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"There were 200 resellers that also licensed that system, and together we made up 120,000 or represented 120,000 businesses, so we do payroll for 120,000 businesses.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:19:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"A lot of the big resellers that use Assure are migrating away from Assure, so that means some 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whole\",\"timestamp\":\"00:20:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like, sell sheets for me.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'm not a developer, but all these formulas and stuff, I describe what I want, and boom, it spits out, like, VBA code, like nothing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"You know, it's like, it's amazing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:07\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Well, I just, so I don't know, you know, this is your options.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If you would have asked me two years ago if we would be in this, I would have said no.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If you would have asked me a year ago, I would have said, well, yeah, it's progressing really fast, but I don't know.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Now I'm like, I have no clue.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:24\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like, I don't know.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like, next year, if you're going to be able just to type a prompt in and, you know, it knows you so well about what your expectation is, that it can just build a whole website.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I can't promise you that it won't be able to do that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I wouldn't be surprised if it did do that, although I also wouldn't, I also would not be, I mean, I would be surprised, you know, I could, I would be surprised either way.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I think a year from now, we might be looking at this things.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Wow, it doesn't do quite as much.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:21:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"As I thought yet still, or wow, it does, you know, kind of what the trajectory it's been going on.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:22:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I, you I just don't know.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:22:07\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"We just don't know at this point.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:22:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So, you know, I mean, the other thing is, is you have to kind of weigh the, so right now we're doing a lot, and I'm still crazy busy.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:22:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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if we don't know to build a new tool, you know, that's a different thing, but, or add a new feature, those things are a lot easier to do.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:22:40\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So, yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:22:52\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Well, what it is, what's happening is, two things.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:22:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"One, when it goes down.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:22:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"One, it One, it goes One, Thank you.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:22:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Client's just .\",\"timestamp\":\"00:23:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"You know how it is.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:23:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, I get it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:23:03\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And then the other thing is recently, and I know you maybe like a year or so ago, I don't recall when, you added a feature where like if the authentication process is successful or fails, it sends you and I an email.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:23:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But there's this guy, and the service bureau, one of the service bureaus that are actually using this tool, they've been harassing me because when he tries to authenticate, it connects, then the file gets pushed, I call it a file, but the data gets pushed to QuickBooks, and it errors, and then it disconnects him.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:23:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And it did that over and over.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:23:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"He cannot stay consistently connected.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:23:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So I wasn't sure if that was something specific to his environment.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:23:49\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I believe you said in an email to me that it was a very rare type of error or something like that, and I'm.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:23:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Common error.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But we never could figure that out.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And it's still doing it to him?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:10\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, he's been, he's never been able to connect.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, I don't remember the name, but...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It was under Serendipity, the Service Bureau Serendipity.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But, you know, I wasn't sure if that was a symptom of the environment, like something wasn't running, or if that was maybe a special situation with somehow his setup in QuickBooks.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:24\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Well, last time, if you're, it's the same guy that I responded to last time, they were, he was disconnected.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Which company was it?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So Service Bureau Serendipity Payroll, and the company was A1 Vehicle Group.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, it says, it says he's in that...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:24:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, if I push that authentication to him, he will connect.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It will change the status to connected.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:07\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'll be able to see it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"The file will then go, or the data will go a few minutes later, and then I'll check again, and then it'll say re-authentication, and it will show that the file is error.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:10\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Why don't you do this?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"mean, the problem I have with testing that is, is the last time I couldn't test it because he wasn't authenticated.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Can we have him re-authenticate, and then can you send me the file, and I'll try to process it manually so I can see what exactly is failing, if anything?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:25:31\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Well, I have a 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it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:26:03\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, because he was the only one I'm aware of that would get disconnected when it aired, which was, that's a new one for me.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:26:14\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I've never seen that before.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:26:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But a bunch of companies have been having some issues recently within the last few months where it just doesn't go.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:26:22\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"mean, the file balances, everything looks good.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:26:31\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"As a matter of fact, the file 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logic.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:26:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, well, QuickBooks did change their, I don't know if you're, I don't know if you're registered to the dev thing, they made a bunch, they made some big changes, they started charging for their API access, which is one of them.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Really?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, so it's, I think I'm paying, I'm in the silver tier or something like that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I think it's 59 bucks a month.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:26\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, I have enough clients using it that it, that it's fine.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You know, I have to get enough development work out of it still that I don't mind paying for it, but it's not like a big ticket thing for me anymore.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:32\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So that's another thing I have to kind of consider as well as like, you know, if I.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, the cost.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:46\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"That's interesting.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"mean, I heard, if you recall, we were thinking about a while ago, an app that would check people's bank accounts to see if they had sufficient funds to cover the payroll debit.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:27:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's about to occur.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Now I heard Chase.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Chase is actually going that route.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:03\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"If you want access to their bank account, you have to pay a fee to Chase.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, I'm sure that it's the next big thing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Everybody's going to start doing that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:12\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"They have to monetize everything nowadays.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, I mean, that's going to suck for small development firms, in my 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term.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, it's still it's still a good amount of money that I make from QuickBooks integration.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So I don't mind maintaining them in the profile and all that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:46\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But I don't know.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:52\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I do have a limit of how many I can send and I don't think it's that I'll double check it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"don't Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"you.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:28:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So like the, I'm on like the silver tier, which is the higher tier is expensive.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I wouldn't, I definitely would stop doing it if I had to pay for the higher tier.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So I think it's like a thousand or $1,200 a month for the next tier up.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But I don't think I'm any, it's, it's a big jump.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:14\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like I'm definitely not, I don't think I'm anywhere near.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I will check it just to make sure, like, I can see like how many of my calls are allotted and yours does quite a bit, but I don't think we're anywhere near that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"we, you know, like we're talking huge, the gold tier is like, you know, Avalara type clients or fishbowl, you know, huge integration companies that integrate with QuickBooks.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So I'll double check that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I don't think that's a problem, but yeah, out of curiosity, is there a way for you to quickly filter data?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:49\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like, is it possible for you to see, for example, in the month?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:29:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"How many unique service bureaus and companies sent a file to QuickBooks that are not under PayNortheast?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I guess we're trying to determine.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I guess I don't completely understand.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If they sent a file that they're not, I mean, I can do whatever query we want.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:20\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I just need to understand what it is.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:28\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, I'm trying to figure out how many, like I'm looking at the list of service bureaus here, and I don't know how many of them are still actively even using this.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"You know, like the list looks pretty long, but I know some of them sold.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"They're no longer a payroll company.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, I can do that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:46\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, I can list on here.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, we can, I can make you a, I can make you a little quick list that shows when the last connection was made.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:49\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Sure.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:55\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Or when the last file was received.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Not so much like a last file.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:30:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"How can I say this?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"You have a process log on here, I see.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And in that process log, I could filter by date or show today.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:04\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And when I show today, it's going to show me every file sent today, which makes sense.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"What I'm trying to determine is, like, I would love the ability to filter that to say, okay, also just show me unique files sent to that company.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So if McDonald's sent 10 files this month, or today, show McDonald's once, you know what I mean?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:28\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like, the process log is great.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:36\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I like what you show here.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But is there a way to also add the ability to summarize it by unique service bureau and or companies?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like, I'm just trying to figure out how many companies are actually using it that are not mine.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Oh, gotcha.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like, cause I, my clients are using it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"happy.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'll Bye.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Bye.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:31:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But, you know, how many service bureaus and how many companies also are still using this?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I guess that helps to gauge, is it still worth investing in?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:06\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:13\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Okay, sure.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I can do that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I can add in.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So you want to see.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:20\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like for that date range, like if I select the date range of the whole month of February, and Megapay had 10 unique companies, just, I don't even need to see the companies.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I just need to know that Megapay had 10 unique companies send a file that month, you know, and then on to the next one.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:38\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I I don't know how you would do that, but I guess essentially in that date range, how many unique companies for that service bureau sent a file.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I think I understand.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I can make you a list for that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:32:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, because if there are still a decent number of people using it, then I guess I will go down the road.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And like you said, maybe in a year it'll be more cost effective to do it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:08\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But then what do we do for that year?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:12\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"We just maintain status quo, or what do you recommend?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, it's fine on there.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:22\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I just want you to know it is what it is.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"At this point, there's not a lot I can do.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:28\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Right, no, that makes sense.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:31\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It's just more of the same.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:33\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If you don't have a lot of companies on it, it's fine.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:34\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's been there.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:36\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I just, you know, the server is stale.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's being backed up.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:41\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's doing all the things that a server should do.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I'm just telling you, I shouldn't say it's stable.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's mostly stable.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But you know what it is.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:51\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"No, and that makes sense.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:55\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"What did strike me as odd is you mentioned that\",\"timestamp\":\"00:33:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"That the tool that we have is using a lot of, you know, doing a lot.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But yet my biggest client, like I said, they migrated away.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:06\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Megapay migrated away.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'm curious if we still get, if we're still getting data for them, is it still being processed?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:12\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like, the payroll system may still send the email address, the report.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So unless Megapay goes in and ends that, we're still going to get the data from Megapay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I can look.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:35\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I can look.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'm in the data right now.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I can tell you when the last Megapay came through.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, we're still getting data from Megapay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So we're processing all of that regardless.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:49\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And we're getting a lot of data.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:53\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"way.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:55\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"We're getting a fair amount of data from them.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I wouldn't say actually.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"actually.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:34:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"We're not getting a lot, but I mean, we've gotten 50 in the last month.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:07\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"When you build that report to show like a count, can you also build a way to only process the data if the service bureau is listed as active?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And then in that instance, I'll be able to like deactivate a service bureau?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:18\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, I mean, I could add a button in there that just says if we get something from the service bureau to ignore it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Sure.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, because they, they totally.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:32\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"you're, you're getting, and it's still processing these ones that are coming through from Megapay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:35\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like the ones that we're receiving, I see that they're successfully being processed.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:41\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Interesting.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So they, they skirted the billing, but they found a way to still get use of the tool.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Interesting.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'm getting like Sageway Logistics.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:35:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Greater optics, top-notch appliances, these are all still going through up till PA Developers, Inc., Orchid appraisals, these are all still going through.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And there's some big ones in here, 278 transactions.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So yeah, mean, that's just, they're overhead.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:22\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, they're, you know, whatever.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's, at this point, it is what it is, but, but yeah, we have to take that apart, we have to extract the email, we have to loop through, we have to connect to QuickBooks, I mean, there's, it's process, right?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's, it's doing things.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And it's taking away from the other ones it needs to run.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Do you want to, like, why don't I just make this, this is a summary list where I can...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:36:53\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You can see all the SBOs, sub-summarize with the companies and how many processes they did for each one.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"That would probably tell you everything you need to know.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"That's an easy report.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:06\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"You know what I was just thinking, actually?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I wonder if I should just take the process log screen, set the date range to the beginning of January to the end of January, and then just copy and paste it into an Excel file and manipulate it or something, you know?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:10\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Well, I can just give you an Excel export if you want that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"That could work, too, because then I could just filter by Unique or something.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:28\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Because, yeah, it looks like there are still people using it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:33\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Pay Plus, Payroll Systems is another one that's about to leave.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:36\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"They're switching payroll platforms.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, the tool, the usefulness of the tool is diminishing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"That's why I don't want to invest too much into it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"But at the same time, I hate to lose.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:37:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"How many clients are we talking about?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Hundreds or dozens?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"What, for my clients?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:18\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:20\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I think so.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:22\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'm listed under PayNortheast.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Let's see.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I do last month.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:26\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Let me do last month.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:31\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Just waiting for it to load here.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:35\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Last month, I processed 19 unique companies.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Let's just error on the side of larger volumes, so we'll say that they were processed weekly, and we'll do a five-week one.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:41\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So I would have sent 95 files, essentially, to you.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"95 unique companies.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"no.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:38:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Not unique companies, unique files, I should say.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Do you think, like, I wonder, another thing to maybe consider is just running a process periodically?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:08\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, if you get it down to 19, that's not that many.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Maybe you do use FileMaker Pro, maybe you just bring it up on your laptop and run it periodically.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:28\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I don't know.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:35\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That way you don't need a server.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You just keep the file, you know, make sure it's backed up and all that, and just press a button and it runs everything on your local machine.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Well, the problem is, like, where, if you recall the word, like, the process flow, it sends an email, you're grabbing that file.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:39:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Would I have to manually download each file?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"No, you just press a button.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:04\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So there's a process that does all this in my server, on the server now.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So we would just give you a button and then you'd press it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:10\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It does that process, checks your emails, does what it needs to do.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:13\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Here's the thing about all of these, about anything that you do, it all just requires a trigger.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"In the case of running it on the server, the trigger is that we run this every 15 minutes or whatever it is.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Maybe it's five minutes.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:31\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I can't remember exactly the timing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:32\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So whenever you run a process, whether that's an individual clicking a button or a timed trigger, you just need a space to do that, which is FileMaker server or your laptop, and you need a trigger for that to happen, right?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:34\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Now that trigger could be other things on your laptop or on your FileMaker server, could be a cron event.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And that goes off on your your\",\"timestamp\":\"00:40:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And you could do it that way, too.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"We could put it on your FileMaker server, just have a cron event running that triggers that to happen, what we're doing now on the server, and it just does that, and you just use FileMaker Pro.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:04\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"The problem still being that there's no way to connect the device.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So when they authenticate, that's all web technology, right?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:24\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I think I did that all on PHP.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And that PHP sends data to the FileMaker server through a secure webhook.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:32\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That's basically like a tunnel of connection between two different databases.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"There is no way to do that in FileMaker Pro.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So that part would be tricky.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like you'd need to figure out a way if you wanted to bring a new client on or you wanted an existing client that needed to re-authenticate for any reason.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:41:53\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"The other thing I might recommend to you, and I don't, is if you, you can look into this.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:42:13\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I'm not going to recommend this because I don't know if this is kosher.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:42:24\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You look into something Setting up your own FileMaker developer account, and you may be able to get FileMaker at a developer.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:42:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I don't want to, I don't know what the EULA will allow for this, but you might be able to get FileMaker server at a discount if you buy the developer version, but you might want to look into that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:42:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You didn't hear it from me.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:42:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'll let you do that research on your own and see if it's something that works for you, but...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:42:55\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Right In I\u9b06iesConsumer.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:42:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"make ...reme Last Thank Myrito.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:42:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And then, you know, if that works, you don't have to tell me about it, about any of it, I'll just, we'll go from there.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But you can check that part out, too.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:06\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Right, right.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Otherwise, we try and see if it's cheaper in a year to revamp this thing you're saying.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, mean, it may be better just to leave it the way it is.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And since the importance of its diminishing anyway, who cares if it doesn't function 100%.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Wow, that's interesting.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"On a side note, in terms of AI, I know you mentioned that it's helping you with development.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:49\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Are you able to, are you seeing\",\"timestamp\":\"00:43:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Can anyone that you make programs for actually utilize AI that you develop?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:44:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Like, for example, maybe tools to assist them.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:44:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I guess I'm just curious what other people that you write programs for are creating these days.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:44:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, the landscape is totally changing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:44:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"mean, yeah, everything.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:44:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, just entirely from how we're starting to communicate with the data to what can be done reasonably now.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:44:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You know, we used to ask for something and you'd be like, yeah, we could do that, but it's probably not reasonable to implement it because it's going to take too many hours and cost too much time.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:44:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But, you know, just, you know, data and vectors where you can ask the AI a question, and it does these incredible queries based on...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:44:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Based on this vector information that it has, mean, the sky's the limit, being able to create reports, you know, build a report, charts, and it was just that, you know, now you can ask AI to, hey, can you take this, can you give me, you know, based on this data format, can you give me a report that shows you XX and X, I want it to be a bar chart, you know, and then you can get that report, and then you can say, you know, and then it understands context.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:45:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So you can say, hey, that report was great, but can you make this line green, can you add, you know, a line to the bar that represents the changes over, you know, the change over time, mean, everything is changing, I mean, it's not just one thing, it's not just the development side of things, it's how you look at the data, I mean, I'm working on this thing for a flooring company, right, for one of my clients in California, they're a flooring contractor,\",\"timestamp\":\"00:45:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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something.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:47:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But if you give it enough information, what it can produce is absolutely amazing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:47:33\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Now, you still have to take what's left over.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:47:38\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And this is the part that I'm still useful for, and do something with it, right?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:47:40\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Because it doesn't do a good job of that part.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:47:46\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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looks like.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:22\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Hey, remember when I told you to put in, you know, you know, for customer XYZ, can you tell me what we, I mean, I don't think you probably still want to see lists, but I don't think we'll be navigating as much as like we used to.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It'll be more of a prompt type interface.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I agree with that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"mean, I use Gemini every day, every day, all day.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:49\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I love Gemini.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:53\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I love Gemini.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I love Gemini.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"God.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:48:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I feel like payroll is the perfect industry for AI because it's just raw data.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"You run a report, show me how much overtime I paid in February, stuff like 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people.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:35\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"They can't possibly stay on top of all of them, and especially construction companies.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"They want a job cost.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"How much time do we spend at McDonald's over here versus that McDonald's?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:46\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"What was the reason for the difference in labor?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Things like that.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And I've been trying to figure out a way.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"So even if this quick .\",\"timestamp\":\"00:49:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'm trying to figure out a way to modernize the way people view the payroll data, especially in construction industries where they're trying to stay on budget and they're trying to track the costs per building and compare them so they could then forecast and estimate future projects.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:50:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"More 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driven.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:51:30\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, it's there, it's still not easy, but it is there, like you, it's there, like the information is there.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:51:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So the problem still is in the industry that it requires...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:51:55\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:51:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:51:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:51:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"...\",\"timestamp\":\"00:51:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Patience to get it to where you want it to be like it still requires someone to refine prompts see where understand the data understand what it's like, not to the point where in it, it may get here where you can just throw a bunch of data at it and say tell me something interesting about my data.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:52:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Here's the problem we're trying to solve.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:52:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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data.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:53:26\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Because you have to tell it all those things, you have to say, a good prompt and a good AI, you know, is to say something like, hey, Gemini, as a data analyst, your job is to do XX and X, I want you to look for, through this data, this data includes.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:53:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"We information for one or more jobs.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:54:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Here's the job field, here's the data field, here's the time field.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:54:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Now, we're also 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doing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:55:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You know, they, they all They kind of understand how AI works.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:55:28\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"They don't really understand the whole bit of it.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:55:33\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's like a alien intelligence.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:55:35\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That's how crazy this thing works.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:55:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Well, I mean, that's another story for another day.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:55:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But so you're sort of doing the same thing when you're working with, with their AI, you're putting this front end on it to kind of control what you get back, because if it gives you that gobbledygook, you're going to confuse your users.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:55:41\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And that's a big thing right now in AI.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:55:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And there's a lot of\",\"timestamp\":\"00:55:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Confusion over that sort of thing, like, you know, garbage in, garbage 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yet.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:56:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's gotten better.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:56:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's amazing, like the things that it does catch, but you still have to kind of, again, the prompt is, like, hey, you're going to receive this information from the user.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:57:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If they ask something stupid or that you don't understand, don't just make it up, you know, be stringent.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:57:08\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like, if that's not a good question, say, hey, I don't understand your question.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:57:14\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You have to, like, really be specific.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:57:18\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Right.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:57:22\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"That's kind of what I've seen.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:57:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Like, I've had it, like, we, like, in that system I was just telling you about, we're integrating a messaging system through Zoom, where they send a message, Zoom receives it, it goes into their old FileMaker system, we send the request to AI, we have a bunch of rules, like, it says, like, hey, if they ask about a customer, they might, you know, I tell it, hey, if they ask about a customer, they may be just asking for a phone number or information about how to get a hold of them.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:57:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So this may be a simple request, or this may be a more complicated request, if you don't understand the specific answers based on the rules, and they actually now type in the rules of, like, what.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:57:51\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"The kind of questions that are expected to come in, then just say, don't understand the request, but they'll say things like, they have like a list of prompts that they put into their FileMaker system now that says, you know, I often we need, we often need to get a phone number if we call you asking about, or if we text you asking about customer John Smith, can we have a phone number, just simply return the phone number, right, because it was doing all kinds of crazy .\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"We had to really refine that down.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:26\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And now, as their prompts get longer, it gets a little confusing, too, because like it gets confused about what it's supposed to do, even with as the they get more and more of these different things they wanted to do.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:29\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It gets even a little confused about what it's supposed to do between those.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So you have to be really, really specific with it if you want to get good data back.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Very interesting.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:51\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Well, one thing's for sure, the world is definitely changing.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:53\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That's for sure.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That's certain.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:58:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And if you've never seen iRobot, maybe go check out that movie.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I've seen it a couple of days.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"My kids were obsessed with it for a few years back when they still were kids.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:06\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"They're adults now, but yeah, we watched it a few times.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, well, I heard Elon announce that he's no longer manufacturing the Model S and the Model X because now they're retooling those factories to go all in on that Tesla robot.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:27\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Well, he also said that in five years, he doesn't think that he says that his Tesla, what is it called?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:28\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Optimus is going to be a better surgeon, the best surgeon in the world.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:38\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"He said, yeah, five years.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:41\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"They asked him, do you think, would you recommend your kids become surgeons?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:44\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And he's like, no, probably not.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Would you recommend they go to college?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Maybe for the social experience?\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:52\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"No, but probably not.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It's probably not worth the money.\",\"timestamp\":\"00:59:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I don't know.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"mean, what do people do?\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It's going to be mass unemployment.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, I don't know.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:05\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I don't know.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:08\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I was hoping to squeeze five more years out of it.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"If I get five years at this point, I'm good.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:12\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I'll become a, you know, I like to run.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I like to spend time in the forest, so that's better for you anyways, and sit in front of a computer.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"That's the way I'm looking at it.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:23\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"There you go.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, well, I think one day, my job's going to be doomed.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:26\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Well, here's the thing.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:32\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, you look at the bright side of life.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:34\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's if nobody has any money, then nobody's going to spend money.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"We're going to have to figure it out.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:42\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You know, it won't work.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:43\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So you can't have mass unemployment.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And what good does it do these AI overlords to have all this money if nobody else has any, but what are they going to do?\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, the world would suck.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:00:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So everybody, they're in this boat too, you know, like they, it's not, the world's not going to be a very good place for them either.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You know, if, if, if the money is concentrated into four or five people, what good is that?\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:07\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You, you know, you, you can't, people won't, you know, you still need people doing things.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:12\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So we'll figure it out.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's going to be hard.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:18\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Don't, I don't think that, I mean, it's going to be hard.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:19\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And I'm not going say it's going be easy transition, but we'll figure it out.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:21\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And yeah, I think we're going to build better things.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:26\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Maybe, you know, hopefully we'll build, you know, just like in the software business right now, I'm still busy.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:29\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I'm building better things faster now.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:34\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"One day it's going to be like Star Trek.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:39\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"It's just going to be a very messy transition to get there.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:41\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's exciting and scary all at the same time.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I try not to think about it too much.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:50\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Cause I, I read in, in, in, in.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:52\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I know probably more than I, I need to know more, more than I can do anything about.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:55\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:01:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So, you know, what can you do?\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Put your head down.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:03\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"One day we may all be joining you in the forest.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:07\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And again, I'm fine with that.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:11\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I love it.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:13\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I mean, I'm happy.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:13\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I wish I could get outside more.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"There's days I don't go outside.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:16\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"And then, you know, the next day I'm like, gosh, I just need to make sure I make time, right?\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:17\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Well, you said you live in Arizona, I think like the mountain area, right?\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Yeah, we've got a great, I got a, I love it up here.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:29\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I just leave my house and run up into the woods and sometimes we get lost.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:33\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's a little muddy.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:40\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's been warm this year, so the running kind of sucks when it's like this.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:40\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Because it's fine when the ground's frozen and it's snowing, that's fine.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:45\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"But like, it's been warm and not very much snow.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:48\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So that, that kind of stinks.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:52\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"The mud's not that great, but still.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Oh, can have hours snow.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"We've got plenty.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:02:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I've been watching.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I've seen them.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:03\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"We're jealous.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:04\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"We like it, though, out here because it melts.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:07\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"You guys are stuck with it.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:09\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"When snows there, you're stuck with it, right?\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:10\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"We're stuck with it for a while.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:13\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Yeah, we've had over a foot for at least 10 days now.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:15\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Oh, man.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:22\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"All right, then what I'll do then is when you send that Excel file, if you could download that Excel file, what I'll do is...\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:25\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"I'm just going to put a button on here for you to do it yourself.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:32\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"There you go.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:36\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:37\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And then you can have it whenever you want.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:38\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It'll only take me like 10 minutes, so I'm just going to put it on here and then you can just do it whenever you want.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:40\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Okay.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"And then is there a way you could delete MegaPay as a service bureau so we stop processing their files?\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:47\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Why don't we just do what I said?\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:53\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I'll just give you a button and make them inactive.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:54\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"I don't want to delete you.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:56\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"You don't want to delete it, right?\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:57\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Because you want your data.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:58\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"So...\",\"timestamp\":\"01:03:59\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"It's always good to keep your data, you may not know, it might be useful in the future, you just never know, I always advise archiving over deleting, like if you really want to, we could at least keep you a backup of it, and if you really want to delete it, we can delete it, but I'll just put an inactive button on here, and you can just inactivate the whole SBO, and then when I get something from them, we'll just ignore it.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:04:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean 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Steve.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:05:00\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"All right.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:05:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"Sean Kruger\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":\"etechnologies34@gmail.com\"},\"text\":\"Have a good one.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:05:01\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"Take care.\",\"timestamp\":\"01:05:02\"},{\"speaker\":{\"display_name\":\"16319888257\",\"matched_calendar_invitee_email\":null},\"text\":\"You 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